I think we need to have minimum license term for software. 10 years, if they pull it off a digital
store you are owed 3x the price you paid.

FSCK the cloud.
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Re: Gaming's conundrum
By: Matthew Munson to All on Fri Jul 03 2026 08:38 am

I think we need to have minimum license term for software. 10 years, if they pull it off a digital
store you are owed 3x the price you paid.

I suspect you are pised by the Sony fiasco?

When I saw the online only gaming future I took the matters in my own hand and decided to do something groundbreaking: refuse to buy game licenses and buy actual games instead.

Now the Sony-like crap does not affect me.

Don't wait for government or consumer organizations to save you. Take matters into your own hands. The current state of things for most gamers was brought by gamers' irresponsible behavior as customers.


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On 7/7/2026 11:07 AM, ARELOR wrote to Matthew Munson:

Re: Gaming's conundrum
By: Matthew Munson to All on Fri Jul 03 2026 08:38 am

I think we need to have minimum license term for software. 10 years, if they
pull it off a digital
store you are owed 3x the price you paid.

I suspect you are pised by the Sony fiasco?

When I saw the online only gaming future I took the matters in my own hand and decided to do

something groundbreaking: refuse to buy game licenses and buy actual games instead.

Now the Sony-like crap does not affect me.

I am also speaking about the digital movie issue. Paying over 30 bucks for digital content is stupid
if there is no consumer protections.
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Re: Gaming's conundrum
By: Arelor to Matthew Munson on Tue Jul 07 2026 11:07 am

I suspect you are pised by the Sony fiasco?

I've seen posts online about that recently, and while I generally agree that it's good to have a physical copy, I also found the argument interesting because I'm primarily a PC gamer, and PCs have been using digital downloadable copies of games for a very long time (i.e., via Steam). Generally too, software for PCs has been acquired by downloading files for decades, although often, it's fairly easy for someone with a PC to keep the files and back them up for as long as they want, unless the source of the software implements DRM preventing that.

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Re: Gaming's conundrum
By: Nightfox to Arelor on Wed Jul 08 2026 10:01 am

I suspect you are pised by the Sony fiasco?

I've seen posts online about that recently, and while I generally agree that it's good to have a physical copy, I also found the argument interesting because I'm primarily a PC gamer, and PCs have been using digital downloadable copies of games for a very long time (i.e., via Steam). Generally too, software for PCs has been acquired by downloading files for decades, although often, it's fairly easy for someone with a PC to keep the files and back them up for as long as they want, unless the source of the software implements DRM preventing that.

The problem is not that you are getting your software by downloading instead of by installing it from a disk. The problem is most online software stores operate as cloud installers and you cannot keep your own copy of the installer for your program in case you need to use it offline. Or to keep a copy if the software provider goes bankrupt.

ie. people bought movies from Sony, Sony removed the movies from the store. If you paid for any of those movies you cannot longer watch them and your purchase was voided.


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Re: Gaming's conundrum
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Tue Jul 14 2026 12:14 pm

The problem is not that you are getting your software by downloading instead of by installing it from a disk. The problem is most online software stores operate as cloud installers and you cannot keep your own copy of the installer for your program in case you need to use it offline. Or to keep a copy if the software provider goes bankrupt.

ie. people bought movies from Sony, Sony removed the movies from the store. If you paid for any of those movies you cannot longer watch them and your purchase was voided.

Yes, I understand the issue. And specifically for streaming services, that's why I've never bought a movie from a streaming service.

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