Hi everyone,

Autumn weather is finally heading my way. It's finally dropped into the 80s, LOL. No leaves falling yet but I assume soon. My Autumn Joy sedum is
blooming so I figure it won't be too much longer before the weather starts to change. I've noticed as I get older, I can't take the temperatures I used
to able to tolerate. Another fun part about getting older.

I am ready for the holidays and I noticed today Walmart already has all of their Christmas stock in already. I remember when you'd not see anything Christmas-y until after Halloween.

But I'm still alive, even if it against my will sometimes... XD

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Hello digimaus!

** On Tuesday 22.09.26 - 15:02, digimaus wrote to All:

I am ready for the holidays and I noticed today Walmart already has all of their Christmas stock in already. I remember when you'd not see anything Christmas-y until after Halloween.

Some people like to get their Christmas shopping done early.

I get the same expectation in my bookshop.

But I'm still alive, even if it against my will sometimes... XD

Hmmmm. No comment.
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Hi everyone,

Autumn weather is finally heading my way. It's finally dropped
into the 80s, LOL. No leaves falling yet but I assume soon. My
Autumn Joy sedum is blooming so I figure it won't be too much
longer before the weather starts to change.

Leaves started dropping off some of the trees here about a month ago. IMHO, not so much a sign of Autumn, but low rainfall and heat got them started early. Most of them are just getting started now.

I am ready for the holidays and I noticed today Walmart already
has all of their Christmas stock in already. I remember when
you'd not see anything Christmas-y until after Halloween.

Yeah, it seems to me like once upon a time it was not even immediately after Halloween, but closer to before Thanksgiving (in time for Black Friday!). When I worked at Target in 1987, I do believe we started putting out some Christmas stuff in the "seasonal area," after we cleared it of all of the unsold Halloween costumes and decor, but the stuff like Christmas trees came out a little later.

Two weeks ago today, I noticed that Cracker Barrel here in town had out Halloween and Christmas stuff. There was already at least one Christmas tree out. :O :D I didn't pay attention when I was in Wal-Mart last week.

Mike

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Re: Autumn
By: digimaus to All on Tue Sep 22 2026 15:02:20

Autumn weather is finally heading my way. It's finally dropped into the 80s, LOL.

I'll trade you my lower-60s for your 80s. I hate cold weather, despite being born in November.
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Re: Autumn
By: August Abolins to digimaus on Tue Sep 22 2026 19:31:00

I get the same expectation in my bookshop.

Those still around? I miss bookstores. I remember when indie shops got pushed aside from the likes of B.Dalton's, Borders, etc. How ironic that they too got pushed aside by Amazon, Good Reads, etc.
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August Abolins wrote to digimaus <=-

Some people like to get their Christmas shopping done early.

I get the same expectation in my bookshop.

I understand that; it's just the over-commercialization of major holidays.
It seems everyone wants to make money off the holiday and not enjoy the
holiday for what it is.

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Mike Powell wrote to digimaus <=-

Leaves started dropping off some of the trees here about a month ago. IMHO, not so much a sign of Autumn, but low rainfall and heat got them started early. Most of them are just getting started now.

My parents have a massive and beautiful weeping cherry tree in their front
yard that got waterlogged from all the torrential rain we've had and the
thing dropped all of its leaves in August. From what my mom tells me, those trees are known to do that. Around my neighborhood, I haven't seen any
trees start to change color let alone drop leaves yet.

Two weeks ago today, I noticed that Cracker Barrel here in town had out Halloween and Christmas stuff. There was already at least one
Christmas tree out. :O :D I didn't pay attention when I was in
Wal-Mart last week.

I am not surprised at that, especially at Cracker Barrel. I've noticed all
of the big home decor stores here, such as Hobby Lobby, At Home, Home Goods, and the like, are already in full bloom with Christmas stuff. They have
other seasonal goods for Halloween and Thanksgiving, but their main focus is
on Christmas stuff.

I guess my issue is just the over-commercialization of Christmas and the
major holidays in general.

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Mortar M. wrote to August Abolins <=-

Those still around? I miss bookstores. I remember when indie shops
got pushed aside from the likes of B.Dalton's, Borders, etc. How
ironic that they too got pushed aside by Amazon, Good Reads, etc.

There's a huge used book store in my town that's been around for the last 20 years (how long I've lived here) and probably much longer called "Book
Lover's Warehouse". They have used books of all kinds as well as music, comics, et cetera. It's owned by a couple and they have all sorts of neat things to browse--and occasionally buy if my limited budget allows--and you
can spend a long time in there.

We do have a big Barnes and Noble on the other end of town which is nice but
it doesn't have that "je ne sais quoi" that Book Lover's Warehouse does.

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Mortar M. wrote to digimaus <=-

Autumn weather is finally heading my way. It's finally dropped into the 80s, LOL.

It didn't get above 73 today as it was rainy and cloudy. It reminded me of
an Oregon winter. However, the 80s will be back in a few days, ugh.

I was born in August and I despise the hot, miserable, and humid weather that is usually present on my birthday.

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Mike Powell wrote to digimaus <=-

Leaves started dropping off some of the trees here about a
month ago. IMHO, not so much a sign of Autumn, but low
rainfall and heat got them started early. Most of them are
just getting started now.

My parents have a massive and beautiful weeping cherry tree in
their front yard that got waterlogged from all the torrential
rain we've had and the thing dropped all of its leaves in
August. From what my mom tells me, those trees are known to do
that.

The tree I was thinking of when I typed that is a Cherry. Although not weeping, it does have the small pinkish blooms that the weepers do. Maybe wet was its issue... we have alternated between very wet and very dry so maybe I only noticed it after it got dry. My neighbor has some sort of ornamental fruit tree that did the same thing... all the leaves on both trees are already gone.

Around my neighborhood, I haven't seen any trees start to

change color let alone drop leaves yet.

Some of the Tulip Poplars and Locusts have started turning yellow, and dropping. The Locusts often do that early, though. I have a tree/bush of unknown type that has leaves that turn a beautiful red and it started early, too. The Maples and the Redbud seem to be holding onto most of theirs pretty well, as does my other Cherry tree (different variety with bigger "carnation-looking" flowers).

I guess my issue is just the over-commercialization of Christmas
and the major holidays in general.

Oh, yeah, I think Thanksgiving and Christmas were more enjoyable before that time of year got so commercialized.

Mike


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Autumn weather is finally heading my way. It's finally dropped into the 80s,

>LOL. No leaves falling yet but I assume soon. My Autumn Joy sedum is
>blooming so I figure it won't be too much longer before the weather starts to
>change. I've noticed as I get older, I can't take the temperatures I used
>to able to tolerate. Another fun part about getting older.

Up where I am in Canada we had frost warnings a couple of days ago.
Fortunately it has warmed up a little since then. Days are currently
sunny and in the high 60's F and nights slowly warming over the next
week from about 40F to 53F..

I know what you mean about getting older though.. Winter lows have
krept up over the years but I feel -25F more than I used to feel -40F.
Lots of time outside in winter shoveling snow from about 400 feet of
walkways around my place. This may be the last winter I stay here
over the winter.. I'm 72 BTW..

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Leaves started dropping off some of the trees here about a month ago.

>IMHO, not so much a sign of Autumn, but low rainfall and heat got
>them started early. Most of them are just getting started now.

Probably.. Even here where in Middle Canada where it's been colder
than there we are barely starting to get leaves changing colour,
let alone dropping.

Two nights this week we've had frost warnings but where I am, right
beide the water, I don't think it got quite that cold.

I am ready for the holidays and I noticed today Walmart already
has all of their Christmas stock in already. I remember when
you'd not see anything Christmas-y until after Halloween.

Usually items for the next holiday start to show up immediately
after the current holiday. Our Thanksgiving is earlier in Canada
(Oct. 12th this year) but, now that I think about it, Walmart
seems to have some items, probably leftovers from last year,
that are probably intended for Halloween, although I didn't see
a sign saying that, just big boxes of small chocolate things.

Two weeks ago today, I noticed that Cracker Barrel here in

>town had out Halloween and Christmas stuff. There was already
>at least one Christmas tree out. :O

I think that's pushing things a bit too far.. B)

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Some people like to get their Christmas shopping done early.
I get the same expectation in my bookshop.

I understand that; it's just the over-commercialization of major holidays.

>It seems everyone wants to make money off the holiday and not enjoy the
>holiday for what it is.

A lot of businesses do about 40% of their annual sales at Christmas
time so you can understand them pushing it a bit..

I'm not saying it's a good situation, just a reality..

I've gotten away from all that stuff.. I have not given or gotten
a Christmas present in years..

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Those still around? I miss bookstores.

There's a huge used book store in my town that's been around for

>the last 20 years (how long I've lived here) and probably much
>longer called "Book Lover's Warehouse". They have used books of
>all kinds as well as music, comics, et cetera.

The closest town to me is Parry Sound, which is pretty small. Not
counting tourists the permanent population in town is around 7000.
But we have a good sized Library plus Parry Sound Books that sells
new books and a Huge place called Bearly Used Books that has many
thousands of used books, likely more than the Library.

Lots of swapping back and forth between Bearly Used Books and
the Library. I told the head Librarian that I had about 600
books I wanted to donate to them and she suggested that I take
them to Bearly instead and have them credit the Library with
whatever they would normally pay for the books so they could
purchase some books there the Library wanted but didn't have.

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Lots of swapping back and forth between Bearly Used Books and
the Library. I told the head Librarian that I had about 600
books I wanted to donate to them and she suggested that I take
them to Bearly instead and have them credit the Library with
whatever they would normally pay for the books so they could
purchase some books there the Library wanted but didn't have.

Sounds like a polite way of saying "I can already tell I don't want your books!" :D

Mike

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Lots of swapping back and forth between Bearly Used Books and
the Library. I told the head Librarian that I had about 600
books I wanted to donate to them and she suggested that I take
them to Bearly instead and have them credit the Library with
whatever they would normally pay for the books so they could
purchase some books there the Library wanted but didn't have.

Sounds like a polite way of saying "I can already tell I don't

>want your books!" :D

Most used books the library gets are either not suitable or maybe
not desireable to put on the shelves so the library has to arrange
book sales and storage while hoping they sell so that's why they
have backed away from large donations. Likely the fact that I had
so many was what brought on that suggestion..

Re: Books, the paper type.. They had the CEO of Indigo Books on
the Business news tonight and she said that they are having their
best year in history.. She figures people want to get away from their
devices for a while and so have started buying 'real' books again.

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Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-

Most used books the library gets are either not suitable or maybe
not desireable to put on the shelves so the library has to arrange
book sales and storage while hoping they sell so that's why they
have backed away from large donations. Likely the fact that I had
so many was what brought on that suggestion..

Yeah, I figured as much. I always assumed that libraries would want just
about any book that wasn't torn up or in poor taste -- I think I got that
idea from working in a large library -- but the reality is that most of
them probably don't have the room to accept everything.

Re: Books, the paper type.. They had the CEO of Indigo Books on
the Business news tonight and she said that they are having their
best year in history.. She figures people want to get away from their devices for a while and so have started buying 'real' books again.

I am not too surprised. Between COVID, devices that spy on you, and
providers that can remove content on a whim, it is nice to have the real
thing. I might be wrong, but I also find them easier on my older eyes than trying to read off of the screen.

Mike

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Hello Rob!

** On Saturday 26.09.26 - 06:00, Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL:

Most used books the library gets are either not suitable or maybe
not desireable to put on the shelves so the library has to arrange
book sales and storage while hoping they sell so that's why they
have backed away from large donations. Likely the fact that I had
so many was what brought on that suggestion..

It's a lot of work sifting through personal collections, sorting by condition, etc. You don't want to introduce vermin and/or musty-smelling books along-side new books.

Re: Books, the paper type.. They had the CEO of Indigo Books on
the Business news tonight and she said that they are having their
best year in history.. She figures people want to get away from their devices for a while and so have started buying 'real' books again.

I couldn't find that paricular report in writing anywhere online. But it wouldn't be unusual for Heather to say something like that inorder to draw attention in the hopes that people will visit an Indigo and buy something.


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Most used books the library gets are either not suitable or maybe
not desireable to put on the shelves so the library has to arrange
book sales and storage while hoping they sell so that's why they
have backed away from large donations.

Yeah, I figured as much. I always assumed that libraries would want just

>about any book that wasn't torn up or in poor taste -- I think I got that
>idea from working in a large library -- but the reality is that most of
>them probably don't have the room to accept everything.

I think a lot depends on the number of used book donations in the area
and the library budget. The idea of the credit from the used books
store solved a lot of possible problems while getting some benefit
with little work involved. I do see stamps in books I take out of the
library showing that they do purchase a number of books from there.
I believe I heard they actually have a sort of 'Wish List' for some
titles hoping Bearly Used Books will get those in to save them
having to buy the books new...

Re: Books, the paper type.. They had the CEO of Indigo Books on
the Business news tonight and she said that they are having their
best year in history.. She figures people want to get away from their devices for a while and so have started buying 'real' books again.

I am not too surprised. Between COVID, devices that spy on you, and

>providers that can remove content on a whim, it is nice to have the real
>thing. I might be wrong, but I also find them easier on my older eyes than
>trying to read off of the screen.

I prefer reading a paper book when it's available. I have excellent
eReader programs for my Phone and Tablets, as well as a medium
quality older eReader (LCD Screen, not back lit - better in the
sun but not in dim rooms) but I will always try for a printed book
before looking for the eBook, and I have superior access to eBooks.

But our Librarians love me.. I just email them a list of books I
want, usually 8 or 10 every 2 weeks, and they have them waiting for
me at the front desk when I show up. I don't have to go through
finding their listing and putting them on hold one at a time myself.

They also give me twice as long to return books as they do for
others and the other day they gave me a book on the spot when
I inquired about it even though there was a hold on it for
someone else, and a waiting list beyond that person. B)

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Most used books the library gets are either not suitable
or maybe not desireable to put on the shelves so the
library has to arrange book sales and storage while hoping
they sell so that's why they have backed away from large
donations. Likely the fact that I had so many was what
brought on that suggestion..

It's a lot of work sifting through personal collections,
sorting by condition, etc. You don't want to introduce vermin
and/or musty-smelling books along-side new books.

If we had any concerns at all, we had an older facility where we would take the donations and bug bomb them first so we wouldn't introduce book mites or other bugs. We would throw some stuff out if it was in really bad shape (and not rare).

Mike

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I think a lot depends on the number of used book donations in
the area and the library budget. The idea of the credit from
the used books store solved a lot of possible problems while
getting some benefit with little work involved. I do see stamps
in books I take out of the library showing that they do
purchase a number of books from there. I believe I heard they
actually have a sort of 'Wish List' for some titles hoping
Bearly Used Books will get those in to save them having to buy
the books new...

That does sound like a really good deal for the library. It is good that they have such a relationship with that bookstore.

But our Librarians love me.. I just email them a list of books
I want, usually 8 or 10 every 2 weeks, and they have them
waiting for me at the front desk when I show up. I don't have
to go through finding their listing and putting them on hold
one at a time myself.

I have checked out our local library a few times. They have a big building. When you get inside you realize they don't have as many books as you'd expect from such a big place. Seems geared a lot more towards children's books than what I would be interested in, and they don't open until 10am or so, which is a little late for my tastes.

I usually wind up buying from the local bookstore, or Amazon.

Mike

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Re: Re: Autumn
By: digimaus to Mike Powell on Wed Sep 23 2026 17:35:24

I guess my issue is just the over-commercialization of Christmas and the major holidays in general.

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Re: Re: Autumn
By: digimaus to Mortar M. on Wed Sep 23 2026 18:10:14

Autumn weather is finally heading my way. It's finally dropped into the 80s, LOL.

It didn't get above 73 today as it was rainy and cloudy. It reminded me of

Oops, wrong person. :)
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Hello Mortar,

28 Sep 26 14:20, you wrote to digimaus:

I'm reminded of A Charlie Brown Christmas. I guess his woes still
ring true.

They do, sadly.

I guess my concerns are just remembering when everything had a season and it wasn't everything all the time all at once.

Maybe I am slowly turning into an old man. LOL

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Re: Re: Autumn
By: Mike Powell to Rob Mccart on Sat Sep 26 2026 08:54:28

I am not too surprised. Between COVID,... it is nice to have the real thing.

How did COVID make people want to read paper vs. digital books?

I might be wrong, but I also find them easier on my older eyes than
trying to read off of the screen.

That's one thing I like about my Kindle. It has almost the same look as paper, along with the ability to change the font and its size.
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On 28 Sep 26 15:36:47, Sean Dennis said the following to Mortar M.:

I'm reminded of A Charlie Brown Christmas. I guess his woes still ring true.

They do, sadly.

I guess my concerns are just remembering when everything had a season and i wasn't everything all the time all at once.

I'm not a huge fan of Christmas for various reasons and prefer to do anything just to have it all pass me by.

Nick

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Hello Atreyu,

28 Sep 26 18:53, you wrote to me:

I'm not a huge fan of Christmas for various reasons and prefer to do anything just to have it all pass me by.

I understand. My youngest stepsister, who I was very close to, was killed by a drunk driver during the Christmas season in 2003. I think about her every Christmas and am reminded how her killer just walked away with a slap on the wrist.

-- Sean

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On 28 Sep 26 20:59:50, Sean Dennis said the following to Atreyu:

I understand. My youngest stepsister, who I was very close to, was killed a drunk driver during the Christmas season in 2003. I think about her ever Christmas and am reminded how her killer just walked away with a slap on th wrist.

I haven't been through exactly that level of personal hardship... Just certain family members who "pulled stunts" with me just prior to Christmas then expecting all to be forgiven / ignored / put-on-pause because its Christmas.

It happened a few years in a row, and one family member proceeded to lecture me about "Christmas is the time for forgiveness" in a way that was completely off-putting, tone deaf and definately shoved me in the bah humbug direction.

Same with Thanksgiving, same drama. One year I slaved away in the kitchen and cooked a nice turkey dinner, all to have my wonderful offspring pile up a plate of food and took off to her bedroom, to go camp out on the Internet.

Nick

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Re: Re: Autumn
By: Mike Powell to Rob Mccart on Sat Sep 26 2026 08:54:28

I am not too surprised. Between COVID,... it is nice to have
the real thing.

How did COVID make people want to read paper vs. digital books?

I cannot speak for others but, for me, COVID meant spending a *whole* lot more time in front of a computer for work. No more getting up to and leaving it for a meeting... everything happened on screen.

After my working hours, it was nice to have a break from the PC and other electronics. There is no way I would have finished War of the Worlds, or the several other H. G. Wells books I read during COVID, if I had to read them from a screen, too.

Granted I have never been much of an ebook reader, though, but I have read a few that way. When I was reading "From the Earth to the Moon (and a Trip Around It)," when I didn't have access to the physical book I was able to continue reading it online from the wikimedia books site.

Mike

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It happened a few years in a row, and one family member
proceeded to lecture me about "Christmas is the time for
forgiveness" in a way that was completely off-putting, tone deaf
and definately shoved me in the bah humbug direction.

So basically "Christmas is the time for you to let me win." No thanks. ;)

Mike


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Re: Autumn
By: August Abolins to Rob Mccart on Sun Sep 27 2026 20:43:00

You don't want to introduce vermin and/or musty-smelling books along-side new books.

I love the smell of musty in the morning. Smells like...reading.
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On 29 Sep 26 14:01:50, Mike Powell said the following to Atreyu:

It happened a few years in a row, and one family member
proceeded to lecture me about "Christmas is the time for
forgiveness" in a way that was completely off-putting, tone deaf
and definately shoved me in the bah humbug direction.

So basically "Christmas is the time for you to let me win." No thanks. ;)

Ha! I don't mind the Christmas movies though.

Silent Night Deadly Night, Gremlins, Die Hard, Black Christmas, Bad Santa, all the classics...

Nick

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Atreyu wrote to Sean Dennis:

I haven't been through exactly that level of personal hardship... Just certain
family members who "pulled stunts" with me just prior to Christmas then expecting all to be forgiven / ignored / put-on-pause because its Christmas.

That's happened to me before with in-laws.

Same with Thanksgiving, same drama. One year I slaved away in the kitchen and
cooked a nice turkey dinner, all to have my wonderful offspring pile up a plate of food and took off to her bedroom, to go camp out on the Internet.

I haven't had that happen, but I've just been "forgotten"...but that's okay.
I take myself out to Golden Corral the weekend after Thanksgiving and enjoy
my own meal or just cook at home.

In your case, it's the "hasn't matured yet" issue, sadly.

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Most used books the library gets are either not suitable or maybe
not desireable to put on the shelves so the library has to arrange
book sales and storage while hoping they sell so that's why they
have backed away from large donations. Likely the fact that I had
so many was what brought on that suggestion..

It's a lot of work sifting through personal collections, sorting by

>condition, etc. You don't want to introduce vermin and/or musty-smelling
>books along-side new books.

This is true.. I was thinking about my own books, not what might
come from who knows what conditions..

Re: Books, the paper type.. They had the CEO of Indigo Books on
the Business news tonight and she said that they are having their
best year in history.. She figures people want to get away from their devices for a while and so have started buying 'real' books again.

I couldn't find that paricular report in writing anywhere online. But it

>wouldn't be unusual for Heather to say something like that inorder to draw
>attention in the hopes that people will visit an Indigo and buy something.

You are right about that not being easily available online. I heard it
in person and probably didn't catch all of it but I did hear the
comment about how good a year they are having, but it doesn't show up
in a search. Maybe an online rebroadcast of the show could be found.

That was on the Taking Stock show on Sept. 25th with Amanda Lang
talking to Heather Reisman for part of the show. (CP24)

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It's a lot of work sifting through personal collections,
sorting by condition, etc. You don't want to introduce vermin
and/or musty-smelling books along-side new books.

If we had any concerns at all, we had an older facility where

>we would take the donations and bug bomb them first so we wouldn't
>introduce book mites or other bugs. We would throw some stuff out
>if it was in really bad shape (and not rare).

Yes, I didn't think about that earlier but our Library also treats
all book donations and returns to keep them safe.

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The idea of the credit from
the used books store solved a lot of possible problems while
getting some benefit with little work involved.
there. I believe I heard they actually have a sort of 'Wish List'
for some titles hoping Bearly Used Books will get those in to save
them having to buy the books new...

That does sound like a really good deal for the library. It is good

>that they have such a relationship with that bookstore.

Yes, especially a Used book store. I don't know if they have some
deal with the NEW books store in town but, since Libraries get
a huge discount on the prices, I sort of expect they have their
own source for ordering New books.

I have checked out our local library a few times. They have a

>big building. When you get inside you realize they don't have as
>many books as you'd expect from such a big place. Seems geared a
>lot more towards children's books than what I would be interested in.

Our Library seems to be about 25% young children's books with another
small section for 'Young Adults' (teens) books. I tried to see if I
could find a listing online giving the total but I didn't have any
luck. I think I heard at one time quite a while back that they had
40,000 books, which sounds like a lot but I'm not sure, and they
get new books in several times a month so there should be more now.
Plus libraries here share their books back and forth so they don't
all have to buy a copy of a book, one library lends it out for a
few months or a year, and then they pass it on to another Library
for their turn..

That depends on popularity of the book too. Our library often buys
2 or 3 copies of books that are new and popular.

And we can order a book from another library if ours doesn't have
it. They get it shipped in at no cost to the patron.

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I am not too surprised. Between COVID,... it is nice to have

>the real thing.

How did COVID make people want to read paper vs. digital books?

I think Covid had a lot of people reading more than usual for the
first few years anyways. I know that's when our library started
advertising that they treat incoming books so they were safe.

I might be wrong, but I also find them easier on my older eyes than

> > trying to read off of the screen.

That's one thing I like about my Kindle. It has almost the same

>look as paper, along with the ability to change the font and its size.

There are some nice things about eReaders and the Apps for phones
and Tablets.. I have all my devices set up for reading with a highly
adaptable setup for font size, colours and background screens.
And I have many thousands (15k+) of eBooks in my collections, so I
obviously have nothing against them.

But, that said, I still prefer a paper book if I can get it. B)

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It happened a few years in a row, and one family member
proceeded to lecture me about "Christmas is the time for
forgiveness" in a way that was completely off-putting, tone
deaf and definately shoved me in the bah humbug direction.

So basically "Christmas is the time for you to let me win."
No thanks. ;)

Ha! I don't mind the Christmas movies though.

Silent Night Deadly Night, Gremlins, Die Hard, Black Christmas,
Bad Santa, all the classics...

My favorite is We're No Angels. ;)

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And we can order a book from another library if ours doesn't
have it. They get it shipped in at no cost to the patron.

Our library had that also... the Interlibrary Loan Department. The first time I used it, I got the wrong book. It was by the same author, though, and was one I had not heard of, so I told them I would read it while they re-requested the original. ;) I actually enjoyed the accidental one a little more than the on-purpose one. :D

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Re: Re: Autumn
By: Mike Powell to Atreyu on Wed Sep 30 2026 15:27:18

...Gremlins, Die Hard...

Don't know if I'd call these Xmas movies. Gremlins came out in June and DH in July and while both took place near Xmas, neither were /about/ Xmas which, to me, is what makes a Xmas movie a Xmas movie.

My favorite is We're No Angels. ;)

My favorite Bogie flick, right after The African Queen.

Did you know there are over 40 different versions of A Christmas Carol? That includes both theatrical, made-for-TV movies/specials and episodes from various TV shows. My favorite versions are:
Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol
Bugs Bunny's Christmas Carol
Scrooged
The Muppet Christmas Carol
A Christmas Carol (Patrick Stewart)
There were also a number of CC-themed TV show episodes I've seen. A couple that stick out are from Married: With Children where Sam Kinison plays one of the spirits. Then there's the one from The Six-Million Dollar Man where Steve, dressed as Santa, acts as all the spirits.
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Re: Re: Autumn
By: Mike Powell to Rob Mccart on Wed Sep 30 2026 15:31:02

I actually enjoyed the accidental one a little more than the on-purpose one.

You can't always get what you want,
But if you try sometimes,
You just might find,
You get what you need.

We have a similar system here in MI, called MEL (Michigan eLibrary). I've never used it myself, I from what I've heard from those who have, it's on the slow side, with an avg. of about three weeks to get a book. Yuck.
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Re: Re: Autumn
By: Mike Powell to Atreyu on Wed Sep 30 2026 15:27:18

...Gremlins, Die Hard...

Don't know if I'd call these Xmas movies. Gremlins came out in
June and DH in July and while both took place near Xmas,
neither were /about/ Xmas which, to me, is what makes a Xmas
movie a Xmas movie.

Those were Atreyu's choices. That said, didn't the kid receive the Mogwai (sp?) as a Christmas gift?

My favorite is We're No Angels. ;)

My favorite Bogie flick, right after The African Queen.

Two good ones, for sure!

Did you know there are over 40 different versions of A
Christmas Carol? That includes both theatrical, made-for-TV movies/specials and episodes from various TV shows. My
favorite versions are:
Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol
Bugs Bunny's Christmas Carol
Scrooged
The Muppet Christmas Carol
A Christmas Carol (Patrick Stewart)

No I did not know that. Out of the list above, the first two would be my favorites, followed by the Muppet's. ;) I somehow wind up watching the Bugs Bunny version at least once per Christmas season.

There were also a number of CC-themed TV show episodes I've
seen. A couple that stick out are from Married: With Children
where Sam Kinison plays one of the spirits. Then there's the
one from The Six-Million Dollar Man where Steve, dressed as
Santa, acts as all the spirits.

I vaguely remember the Married: With Children version and it was good.

I think my favorite sitcom version, by a long shot, is a WKRP in Cincinnati episode where Mr. Carlson is Scrooge and the three spirits are Jennifer, Venus, and Johnny Fever. ;)

Mike

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Re: Re: Autumn
By: Mike Powell to Mortar M. on Thu Oct 01 2026 15:21:30

Those were Atreyu's choices.

Agreed. I was merely statimg my take on those films, as he did.

That said, didn't the kid receive the Mogwai (sp?) as a Christmas gift?

He did, but a singlular scene doesn't represent the plot or theme of a film.

I think my favorite sitcom version, by a long shot, is a WKRP in Cincinnati episode where Mr. Carlson is Scrooge and the three spirits are Jennifer, Venus, and Johnny Fever. ;)

That was one of my regular shows BITD, but I don't recall that ep. I'll have to check it out. I'm guessing Jennifer was the Past, Johnny was the Present and Venus was the Future?
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Mortar M. wrote to digimaus <=-

Autumn weather is finally heading my way. It's finally
dropped into the 80s, LOL.

It didn't get above 73 today as it was rainy and cloudy. It
reminded me of an Oregon winter. However, the 80s will be back
in a few days, ugh.

I was born in August and I despise the hot, miserable, and humid
weather that is usually present on my birthday.

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Digi,In August I am heartless when I hear someone speak about hot wx in August. I tell them "Think February".

I recall one February day it Rained, the wind blew, it Sleeted then turned to Snow.
My job was out of doors and Isaid to myself "Don't you ever complain about Hot Wx Again" Whew!.

All of those Recipes and Taglines in Your posts cause me grief because I am unable to Save them on the desktop computer since it doesn't have an internet connection anymore.
Logging on a BBS isn't much fun when I can't Save messages that interest Me.

Keep posting them, please. I am sure others here enjoy some (or All) of the Recipes and Your Taglines.
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Autumn weather is finally heading my way. It's finally
dropped into the 80s,

>LOL. No leaves falling yet but I assume soon. My Autumn
>Joy sedum is blooming so I figure it won't be too much
>longer before the weather starts to change. I've noticed as
>I get older, I can't take the temperatures I used to able to
>tolerate. Another fun part about getting older.

Up where I am in Canada we had frost warnings a couple of days
ago. Fortunately it has warmed up a little since then. Days are
currently sunny and in the high 60's F and nights slowly
warming over the next week from about 40F to 53F..

I know what you mean about getting older though.. Winter lows
have krept up over the years but I feel -25F more than I used
to feel -40F. Lots of time outside in winter shoveling snow
from about 400 feet of walkways around my place. This may be
the last winter I stay here over the winter.. I'm 72 BTW..

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Rob, Reading Your post reminded me of a day in April when I talked about starting to see leaves come out on the Lilac Bushes and Trees and the Canadian Ham I was talking to (over the airwaves) told me He had been fixing the Plumbing in his Summer Place so his family could stay down there in the Summer.

Another April I drove through Memphis Tennessee and saw all of the beautiful blooms in the area.
When I got back home to Indiana all the vegetation was bare.

This Earth being tilted at 23 Degrees allows the wx changes in each Latitude. You Northeners have longer cold spells and shorter warm seasons.
Opposite for those in the Southern Hemispere.

Age here is 84.
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I think my favorite sitcom version, by a long shot, is a
WKRP in Cincinnati episode where Mr. Carlson is Scrooge and
the three spirits are Jennifer, Venus, and Johnny Fever. ;)

That was one of my regular shows BITD, but I don't recall that
ep. I'll have to check it out. I'm guessing Jennifer was the
Past, Johnny was the Present and Venus was the Future?

Almost. Venus was the present and Johnny who, unlike the other two, was dressed more like a dark foreboding figure than a Christmas one, was the future. Without giving too much away, in the future, the station was fully automated and Herb was the only employee. :D

Really good episode. That show had two Christmas episodes during its 4-season run. The other one was about how all of the other characters, except Jennifer, seemed to be in a hurry to get out of town and get to their plans, and didn't really care about the office celebration that Jennifer had worked on. Then everyone gets worried that Jennifer will be alone for the holiday. That one was funny too.

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And we can order a book from another library if ours doesn't
have it. They get it shipped in at no cost to the patron.

Our library had that also... the Interlibrary Loan Department.

Yes, that's what our system is called too.

The first time I used it, I got the wrong book. It was by the

>same author, though, and was one I had not heard of, so I told
>them I would read it while they re-requested the original. ;)
>I actually enjoyed the accidental one a little more than the
>on-purpose one. :D

Worked out well then.. B)

I try to avoid using that to keep the operation costs of the
library down. Usually if I REALLY want a book to finish up a
series or something, I can find the eBook somewhere else.

Funny, just before this I was at my Library site getting a
book order together to pick up while in town next week..
Something wrong there. Everything I looked at said the book
either didn't exist or it's loan status was 'Unknown'..

I have a huge list of books that I got FROM the library site
so they should virtually all be books they have, and I start
reading an author's older books first so I rarely run into
books I want being already out. Hopefully whatever the problem
is there will get it sorted soon.

I only wanted about 4 books this time since I have extras
left over from last time, so I did still sent them a list of
7 books hoping they can find 4 or 5 of them on the shelves..
I always check if the books I want are available to save
them doing a lot of running around checking like they have
to with most people.. B)

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Re: Re: Autumn
By: Mike Powell to Mortar M. on Thu Oct 01 2026 18:23:52

Almost. Venus was the present and Johnny who, unlike the other two, was dressed more like a dark foreboding figure than a Christmas one, was the future.

Really. I figured since Johnny was more of a laid-back, fun-loving kinda guy would represent the future, or maybe the past.

There were a number of excellent episodes, but my favorite has to be the famous Thanksgiving episode ("The Pinedale Shopping Mall has just been bombed by live turkeys.")
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There were a number of excellent episodes, but my favorite has
to be the famous Thanksgiving episode ("The Pinedale Shopping
Mall has just been bombed by live turkeys.") -

That one is certainly the most famous WKRP episode. ;)

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We have a similar system here in MI, called MEL (Michigan eLibrary). I've

>never used it myself, I from what I've heard from those who have, it's on the
>ow side, with an avg. of about three weeks to get a book. Yuck.

We have a similar thing built into the regular library here but, unlike
some places, the number of copies of the eBooks is controlled as if
they were copies of a paper book, usually just 1 or 2. I believe the
files are timed to self destruct in 2 weeks and after that the eBook goes
back into the system, Often there are multiple people 'in line' waiting
to get some eBooks once they come available again..

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I think my favorite sitcom version, by a long shot, is a WKRP in Cincinnati e

>ode where Mr. Carlson is Scrooge and the three spirits are Jennifer, Venus, a
>Johnny Fever. ;)

That show was better than it probably was credited. Lots of truly unique characters.

Two episodes that stuck with me a bit was a Thanksgiving episode where
they were freeing live turkeys. They 'freed' them by dropping them from
a helecopter not realizing that turkeys can't fly and they all fell
to their death, splattering on the ground.

The other was some sort of online test where someone was doing a
demonstration of how alcohol slows your reaction time as a warning
to people. They kept giving Johnny Fever more and more drinks, and
his reaction times kept getting better and better.. B)

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Another April I drove through Memphis Tennessee and saw all of the

>beautiful blooms in the area.
>When I got back home to Indiana all the vegetation was bare.

This Earth being tilted at 23 Degrees allows the wx changes in each

>Latitude. You Northeners have longer cold spells and shorter warm
>seasons. Opposite for those in the Southern Hemispere.

Yes, and it is surprising how what seem a little distance can make
a big difference. I have friends that live only 250 miles or so
South of me, and they will have totally different climate than
I get. It will be noticably warmer, often 10 or 12F degrees, and
that's enough that often they a few inches of snow and most of it
doesn't stick around more than a few days while I'll get a couple
feet of it here, and it's not going anywhere before spring..

Of course with the Climate instability these days you never know
what you're going to end up with..

Supposedly a Super El Nino this winter which should give us a
much warmer winter than usual. Last winter was unusually cold
and snowy for recent years so it may be quite a change..

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I think my favorite sitcom version, by a long shot, is a
WKRP in Cincinnati e

>ode where Mr. Carlson is Scrooge and the three spirits are
>Jennifer, Venus, a Johnny Fever. ;)

That show was better than it probably was credited. Lots of
truly unique characters.

Indeed. That is still my favorite office-based TV show. As a youngster, that is where I wanted to work!

Two episodes that stuck with me a bit was a Thanksgiving
episode where they were freeing live turkeys. They 'freed' them
by dropping them from a helecopter not realizing that turkeys
can't fly and they all fell to their death, splattering on the
ground.

The other was some sort of online test where someone was doing
a demonstration of how alcohol slows your reaction time as a
warning to people. They kept giving Johnny Fever more and more
drinks, and his reaction times kept getting better and better..
B)

Yeah, and meanwhile Venus kept getting drunker and drunker. That is also one of my favorites. Another is an hour-long (or two part?) episode where a terrorist group threatens to blow the station up, which I also often refer to as the "phone cops" episode. :D

Mike

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Re: Re: Autumn
By: Rob Mccart to ED VANCE on Sat Oct 03 2026 06:27:00

Supposedly a Super El Nino this winter which should give us a
much warmer winter than usual. Last winter was unusually cold
and snowy for recent years so it may be quite a change..

I follow a YT channel called Ryan Hall Y'all, a weather analyst in Kentucky. His last several vids are about the SEN and what it means for the Winter season accross the country. Good stuff.
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Mortar M. wrote to Rob Mccart:

I follow a YT channel called Ryan Hall Y'all, a weather analyst in Kentucky. His last several vids are about the SEN and what it means for the Winter season accross the country. Good stuff.

My mom is a big fan of his. I watch him and Max Velocity.

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On 05 Oct 26 20:36:07, Digimaus said the following to Mortar M.:

I follow a YT channel called Ryan Hall Y'all, a weather analyst in Kentucky. His last several vids are about the SEN and what it means for the Winter season accross the country. Good stuff.

My mom is a big fan of his. I watch him and Max Velocity.

The ONLY stuff on Youtube I've sometimes binge-watched is some of the old timers who restore vintage radios, receivers, tube TV's, VCR's, vintage Hifi, mannnn electronics repair is becoming a lost art.

Who would've ever guesed that. When I did a short co-op stint in high school at a local computer shop I had a manager who lectured me that Novell Netware was THE future.... if I were to have a career in this business I'd best get into Novell. Novell this, Novell that... this was before M$ and Windows NT.

Atreyu

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Re: Re: Autumn
By: Atreyu to Digimaus on Mon Oct 05 2026 23:05:02

...I had a manager who lectured me that Novell Netware was THE future.

I helped an instructor in college set up his home network using LANtastic. It was a nice piece of software; easy to setup and use.
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The ONLY stuff on Youtube I've sometimes binge-watched is some
of the old timers who restore vintage radios, receivers, tube
TV's, VCR's, vintage Hifi, mannnn electronics repair is becoming
a lost art.

Lately I have got into watching clips about old mainframes and other "big computers" from the days of tubes. ;)

Mike

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WKRP in Cincinnati

That is still my favorite office-based TV show. As a youngster,

>that is where I wanted to work!

Especially with Jennifer working there.. B)

Yeah, and meanwhile Venus kept getting drunker and drunker. That

>is also one of my favorites. Another is an hour-long (or two part?)
>episode where a terrorist group threatens to blow the station up,
>which I also often refer to as the "phone cops" episode. :D

Hmm.. not sure I remember that one. Maybe I missed it.. B(

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Supposedly a Super El Nino this winter which should give us a

> much warmer winter than usual. Last winter was unusually cold
> and snowy for recent years so it may be quite a change..

I follow a YT channel called Ryan Hall Y'all, a weather analyst

>in Kentucky. His last several vids are about the SEN and what
>it means for the Winter season accross the country. Good stuff.

Sounds interesting.. Now we just wait to see if it has as big of
an effect as they expect. It's certainly not staying warm later
this year, we've already had a number of nights with frost, but
it may make a bigger difference once the worst months of winter
get here..

Today and yesterday here I had highs and lows of about 55F/37F..
But it should warm up a bit again over the next week.

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